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joe i belive that u has a great skill out there and read the rule quite good. may i know you scene for these competition.i just curious so i can lear from it.

- First i want to congratulation to the winners. - Second: I'm not here to comment about the ideas or architects people inspire to do their projects but i must say that i totally support JoeLow and Ignis pov about the rules, Especially two of them: The 1000 px size and the extended week to finish the competition. I think the two were a totally disrespect to other competitors that work hard to finish in time. I hope in the next competition Evermotion make the rules more clear and followed them to the end.

3dmihai please don't interfear this has nothing to do with you.

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3dmihai, Wow you must be traumatized with LEGOS did you swallow a piece when you were a baby, or did someone take it from you cuz you seem to mention it allot. Maybe your Lego model plane crashed and fell to pieces poor baby, Why are you here dude, Did you participated in the contest “WHARE IS YOUR RENDERED IMAGE.”!!

3dmihai ,is there something that you gain here? Why do you say that im trying to piss you off? , because im refering to rules? AND yes the size matters in rendering if you had a clue about it but you probably don't, you always render the same size , and that's why EVERMOTION PUT THIS RULE. The other staff you say are making you LOW and im not going to comment.

ignis, you said those three architect don't have anything to do with these works.. well.. I was talking about those metallic plates. You and your "LOW" level friend here, are two guys who just want to piss us off. About the resolution of images, you think if your image was larger it would've been better? NO, it would look the same, as a kindergarden kid's work. A newbie. Yeah. So, I have an advice for you two guys: get a life, get a girlfriend, stop playing with dolls, go to school, try again to get a girlfriend, try again to stop playing with your LEGO sets, etc......

Question to the judges, once you receive the project files and you discover that Photoshop has been used for post processing or filters for image enhancement would you disqualify the winner, for not following the rules? Part of the rules was not to use Photoshop right?

"The rules are the rules." Those who did not follow the rules should be disqualified especially when allot of member here followed the rules and worked so hard to compete in this competition. Rules should be enforced.

* The minimum resolution for the shortest side of your final render should be at least 1000 pixels thats the rule, and 3 of the 12 didn't follow it... Is there an explanation for that?

Excuse me i said about 1000 pixels the smalest size and the winner did not follow it, (i wrote that he did follow it).

Ignis! Thank you! And for those who really understand my point. Ignis is right about the contest being extended and I have noticed that some of the winning images were entered in the extended time period. I don’t see it being fair at all. Especially when others had worked allot of hours into it. The competition as I understood it was to make the house look good meaning nice that can be presentable in a real world environment a nice livable home. Not a broken down, damaged home with graffiti walls painted, nor vines growing out of walls, nor fantasy looking materials, I just don’t get the purpose of this competition. As an architect/Artist I feel that this competition needs to be further revised.

To: 3dmihai, listen kid, where is your work! I don't see your entry anywhere, I care less about your comments, show me your entry? I don’t see it posted any ware, and I don’t have to take a look at anybodies work but yours, so point it out to me so I can critic it as well.

I was watching the conversation here and was thinking about participating or not but i finaly decided to come in. First of all i have to say that i understand the view of Joe and (maybe) his frustration. I am dissapointed also because my image which i worked for 2 months didn't get the recognition i thought it would. I also share Joe's point about the "rules" of this competition as myself also thought it was about making a give house be a nice real house but ok i understood lately that it was more free and more not photoshop based image, but it was too late for me because i had already put much work in it. What i dont understand is that why a competition that was during 2 months took one week more, though it was stated from the begining that there whould be no more time for the participants. I also dont understand the other rule that the image should have the Smalest size no lower that 1000 pixel and many participants did follow it (including the winner). I also don't understand and had a mention about it why evermotion posted in front page an image of a participant using photoshop while the competition was still on the go having taken the week more. In that mention i posted ,said that it was in one way against the spirit of the competition itself proving that one can make a great image using only render machine. I followed all the "rules" and in my point of view submitted an image that should be in one of the 12 juging it as much subjectivly as i can but im in this thing 10 years and know what is good and what not, ok this my be my imagination but i think there are more people that share it. Anyway it was a competition and anyone participating should know how to lose also, and i know... I will also add that i like the three images that won but they dont justify the 2 months (plus one week) given time. I participated in the post process shared views with other participants worked a lot, followed all rules and did a great job which im proud of that wasn't recognised at all. I also share the point that the 3 winning images has NOTHING to do with architecture of Ghery, Rohe and Ando...

yes, it was all about the use of copper, steel and titanium in some of his works. And no more than that. My comment was mostly for Joe "Low" who must acknowledge some simple facts... if you photograph a real building that has copper plates you can't just say "it's just a screenshot from Unreal Tournament".

Youre completely correct. I always felt this was a forum in which architectural visualization artists came to seek constructive criticism, not derogatory and arrogant comments. The reason I made the comment about Gehry is that I really dont see his use of materials in this image. That is why I asked for a reference. Like I stated, Im not that much into Gehry and am familiar with his more popular chain link fence and plywood projects, and a few projects using copper and titanium sheet in playful manners.

RyanGalliford, when I compared this with some works of Gehry, I was referring to the materials only, not the architectural style which you couldn't choose in the first place. And I don't see your point in your half-page comment. You give me the feeling that you have no idea what this site is about. For your last question, the answer is "YES".

You'll have to fogive me, but I just do not see Gehry in this image, and Im struggling to recall a work of his which this resembles; Im not a Gehry guru, but the stuff Im more familiar with involves a much more playful use of materials. Also, I do not see how the application of textures and composition of an image can allow someone to draw parallels to an architect. I could be wrong, maybe Gehry does a lot of architectural photography. If anyone can help me see the connection, I would appreciate it. Joe: The thing is that your comments, as well as those made by kizo and a couple others, have degraded the integrity of both yourselves and the evermotion forum. Youre correct in that you never made a comment about quality, and that you merely misinterpreted the rules; but rules and judging are always subjective. Some people have their portfolios on this site and direct clients here to see images/awards/comments. Is this a forum in which you would like a potential client to view you?

Hello all, I'm really impressed with the lack of humility of some participants, in my humble opinion I think sometimes even losing the prize material, gain experience and use it to improve it, I know that my image could not compete with extra scenes that were presented, but I know I learned a lot from the competition and I use it in the next, always say that "The defeat is the fuel of the winner of tomorrow"! congratulations to Evermotion ...

For Joe Low: first of all you have no vision. I saw your image and the house and everything else looks like a toy. Bad lights, bad materials, bad angle, exaggerated bump, etc. you are no match for the winners. You are still a newbie. you said 1st image looks like unreal tournament, but it has a great angle that confers balance to the whole scene (a fact that you will never understand). And it is realistic... you might want to take a look at Frank Gehry's works. Your name also says everything about you: "Low". Now go back to your toys and play with your LEGO set.

Just wanted to add a comment about this :)...at Monday all 3 scenes will be avaiable for download...we will send this info through our newsletter also

Hi Edi_W ! Just wanted to ask when will the winning scenes be available for download ?

right joe.....too late now....you showed how LOW you really are.... cya

Edi_W, I would not have lost my cool, if it wasn't for Kizo and Noahman flaming off, and trolling the situation.

Congratulation to all winners and participants. Let's be proud to ourselves as architects or not. Let's support eachother and make every competition as a media to share our knowledge :) Bravo to EVERMOTION

Ncjsmith, the only Muppet here is you. I never commented about the quality here, My comments was about the rules like comparing apples with oranges After seeing some of the winning images with damaged materials and having a SCI-FI appearance it does not match the rules make it look better than good ,so read the full post before you speak.

Apologies Edi, it has gotten way out of hand. Joe Low, I dont know what your problem is buddy, or why you feel the need for name calling, but in the interests of the site and fellow artists, I CALL A TRUCE. Peace.

Please all of you calm down...it's only a competition :)...not the first one and not the last one. I think you all need a bit of rest...its summer, go out drink a beer or something :) Joe Low try to be more polite or I will be forced to bann you.

Joe Low. You're a muppet. The Top 12 seriously blew you work out the water man. So I would really keep any opinions of the quality of work by the winners to yourself until you reach a level that can compete. Sorry mate, but I think you are out number and out gunned on this one.

Evermotion has a reputation for high end realistic renderings, and I hope that it continues to stays in that direction,I hope.

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Kizo you are a true Moron, I don't care for winning you dumbass, I just did not agree with the rules that was posted. It just shows how stupid and ignorant you are.

Kizo let me point it out for you, 7th page called "Modern Spanish Villa".

Nice Nice work everyone! I really like #3. By using filter effects within 3ds, I think it followed the spirit of the competition precisely. I am speechless on the other two. Fantastic work.

ah sorry joe...I missed that...you should have kept all in one post.......but hey man you are right yours is so much better, you really should have won, it is soooo unfair....now I understand why are you so pissed

I see 3dglobe has joined your Circus too, for your info, Scroll down some more "BOZO"; it is in the 7th page. Also there is a big difference between my rendering vs. your Sci-Fi, and I hope everyone can see this and maybe comment between mine and yours.

hey joe you obviously have serious issues man....I respect that you have a different POV but avoid the offenses ....try to behave like a grown up....Also all your points disappear the moment one wants to look at what you did for the challenge, considering you understood the rules so nicely....YOU DELETED IT!!! so no one can see ....I wonder why is that :) :) :)

kizo is the best! .. this guy is from another planet, I have no doubt! Congratulations to all winners and finalists, all works are excellent

To Steve Cole, sorry to have used your image in this debate. I was just trying to get my point across, I am sure you did not take it in a bad way, I like the movie too that’s why I said it in a funny way, but your work is in no doubt awesome.

Noahman, Listen no need to give your credentials, I have been in the field longer than you have, so I am glad you got my point. I appreciate that, but my response was towards Kizo who did not understand my first response and advising me and arcbox to read through the rules and guidelines to avoid similar misunderstanding in the future. That response was off base. Even Kizo was surprised that he won like he said he took it as having fun, but most of us here took it serious. So since kizo started the fire, I felt that I had to educate Kizo the bozo, the difference between the winning images and the rules. That’s why my examples was elaborated towards the rules and in truth, but since you decided to join kizos circus, and you feel that my comment was plainly to turn artist against each other you’re more than a bozo, you’re a dumb clown. I will tell you that the rules should had said for this contest make it look "WORSE for better than BAD for good" The majority of participants followed the rules for instance you can compare the difference with a couple of the 9 feature works like Gakuji vs. Ignis or Marchwiany vs. Ankos 1980 big difference there and like yourself Noahman you spent more than 9 hours working on yours right so please get out of the circus you’re in cuz your the instigator trying to make artist turn to each other here.

oh no man ...it is a nano bio-mechanical surface.....cmon man ur an architect and you know it all :)

I'm not a staff member at Evermotion:). About "that house looks like Norman Bates lives in it" : it will sounds funny but I watched Psycho about two or three weeks ago when I created the scene :) but IMO that nothing to do with this :)

Joe Low.. For your information Mr. Low, I am 33 years old, have an masters degree in architecture, worked for 8 years in the Architectural field and now recently founded and run a very successful vfx/visualization studio in Dubai where we currently have clients ranging from fosters and partners, Leo Burnett, BBDO, Dubai Properties and Aldar, two of the biggest developers in Dubai. I got your initial point.. That was not in question in my response to you. What was in question was your opinion and comments on the 3 winners work. Trust me, did not miss your any of your points, nor felt the need comment, on your obvious misinterpretation of the rules and point of this contest, which by the way, is meant to unite artists not turn them against each other.. So I apologize if I have offended you, as you have me. I merely felt the need to take the side of the artists and did indeed feel, that your comments on there work: " 1st winner the building looks like from an unreal turnament game scene. 2nd place winner the building looks abandoned and the pool is ugaly and dirty. 3rd place winner that house looks like Norman bates lives in it. It need major make over its scary and creepy", where quite unfair and way of the mark.. But in the end, as I stated, you are entitled to your own opinion, no matter how poor it is, or who's feelings they may hurt.. And lastly, I dont own a playstation, I own an X-Box..

I got this from the rules & Guidelines * Staff members are allowed to enter but cannot win any of the prizes. By the way is Steve Cole a staff member?

I see a flaw the reflection of the foreground, does not match with the building. Observe

I think it's plexi glass, or whait, I think it's ice, I see snow in the far right behind the building.

The only ones that were cunfused were the judges like you said OMG this is a great surprise for me, especially considering the tough competition....I had some luck on this one. That's right you did have some luck and my comment in the biggining was that I must have missed something due to the lack of info on the rules, just a plain house and others like my self took it as an architecture point of view, thats all, and So what, that it's an EVERMOTION competition 99% of the renderings are based on realism here, and not just my self, but others see your rendering as sci-fi. You must feel lucky indeed cause you keep debating about it. So don't worry your the winner be happy go out and celabrate have a beer on me. We just don't agree with the judging thats all. piece

@kizo in the foreground, there is a glass or water?

Joe Low ..... maybe you got confused...this was an EVERMOTION competition ......so rules and inputs specified here were to be taken in consideration............I really don't discuss personal taste....but your pov is very biased

Kizo for your information yes in CG architect.com it was posted as an architecture competition.

Noahman, I can tell you have been playing on your playstation alot. There is a diffrence between gamers like you and architects. First of all my point was that the rules that was posted just did not apply. I am sure your mother gave you rules to keep your room clean and nice but of course your such a nerd that you probably understood it as the opposite way so your room must have been a mess so if you can't understand my point then you will always be a nerd. So since you been typing with your dictionary in your hand look up "better than good" .

Hey, OUTSTANDING work by Mia Sani. Congratulations to him & also to the other winners. It was a great competition & awesome entries by all the participants. CONGRATULATIONS to evermotion...

Isucur , havala stari!

you are right Im not an architect but what does it have to do when creating images? can only architects do 3d arh.viz? :):)...did it say "architectural competition" somewhere?....one thing is sure....what guided me was not the possible real life execution nor functionality ..... but image composition solely ...... the same goes for mats and lights, plants position or scale......I even squashed some geometry to make it look better with the extreme cam.angle used :).........we certainly have a different approach

maybe the 1st winner not an architect at all, he didnt have an idea about material in real world. i can suggest the next competition will have an architect for the jury. this is architecture, not product desgin or sci-fi.

you are all right... kizos work is an eyecatcher but it doesn´t fit in comparison to the 2nd and 3rd. Our (architecture office) ranking would be: 1st steve_cole 2nd jan 3rd kizo because steve is giving a very nice mood without changing the idea wich the architect had and thats the point how arch viz works. viz should support the draft and do not dominate. but thats all personal thoughts... so please be friendly and don´t dis eachother ;o) we can see here a lot of great works and i am really looking foreward to get the scenes to learn more. greets chris

Congratulations to all the winners for beautiful and inspiring work, especially Kizo! Proud to be Croat!! Cestitke, Bravo nasi!!

Congratulations to the winners !!! You did a great job there. Especially Steve_Coles work is amazing and really beautiful. Hope it wouldnt take another century for Evermotion to upload the winning scenes.

Noahman thanks for your words! Tadao Ando is my favourite architect, and really honorific if my works remembers you to his works!

Correction to my comment: ...all forms of expression and interpretation - Not interpolation, oops! :)

Well done to all winners. Inspiring work! Joe Lowe: you got some serious issues there dude.. Your comments lack substance and are totally nonconstructive. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but in short, yours are unfounded and just plain spiteful man.. Shame on you. And to arcbox: Please eloborate on "the Normal way".. And how can you possibly substantiate your statement that these are not, or don't fit into architectural renderings.. They are in fact, all 3 of them, well within the realms of architectural renderings, maybe not your everyday crap, run of the mill, stagnent arch viz style thats been around since the 90's, but well with in the realms of 21st century, modern photographic/cinematographic influenced architectural visualization. And as for your next statement: "no connection with rality", all 3 styles mimic an architectural style, period or architect.. For example: -Kizo mimics the early style of Frank Gehry and has roots in Dadist/abstract influenced architecture. -Jan's work mimics the later style of Mies Van Der Rohe and sits well within Modern Contemporary Architecture. -And finally steve's style mimics that of, probably one of all our favorite architects, Tadeo Ando which is the epitome of modern day minimalism.. This is my opinion: You boys are trippin, or maybe just sore losers.. And remember, architectural visualization is an art form more than it is a science, and as architecture, has been and always will be open to any and all forms of expression and interpolation. And with this fact, making the judging for this kind of work, all the more difficult.. Bravo judges.. Bravo!

arcbox: I'am architect and I don't see eny problem in kizo's work. If you could have whole house with cladding from corten, why it should not has cladding from copper? And for more, kizo's render perfectly fit to this type of architecture. Believe me , there is no sci-fi in this piece.

"...make it look better then good..." doesn´t mean change everything like you want. the hard work is to make something different in the NORMAL way... i don´t know what you guys do normaly... seams to be a forum just for students with a lot of spare time and no connection to rality ;o) of corse the first one is a very good work. nice texture, very good lighting and interessing point of view. but no architectural rendering... just fantasy si-fi or call it what ever you want. at least 50% won´t work so...kizo... nothing against your work!... just agaisnt the voting!

Congratulations to all the winners!And participants as well..Good job everyone!

Kizo excuse me I read the rules and guide lines and it plainly states make it look better than good so I am sure others feel the same way that it does not apply at all. were does it look like better than good. 1st winner the building looks like from an unreal turnament game scene. 2nd place winner the building looks abandoned and the pool is ugaly and dirty. 3rd place winner that house looks like Norman bates lives in it. It need major make over its scary and creepy. so were does it apply make it look better than good. like one of the other images that were chosen one looks like gang members took it over so as an architect it is plain and simple Bad Judging the rules and guide line just does not apply to the chosen images. I feel that this competition was not well executed the guide lines does not match with winning images sorry.

Hi all, congrats to you kizo to 1st place. I think you deserve it, because your render is freshy, you have nice atmosphere, materials and lights there and that is the point I thnik. So good luck for everyone next time!

Hello all I would like to thank and congratulate the winner of the competition, was actually deserved, great picture. we are awaiting the next. greetings Zamorano

Hi Nikita and 3dluis Thank you !!! @ arcbox and Joe Low .... guys Im sorry you understood this could be done ONLY the standard way....but it was never specified like that. I for one took it to have some fun, and do what I don't do in the usual everyday work.(you can check some on www.arscom.hr) also it is not so sci-fi as it seems and everything could be reproduced.....never mind I advise you to ask questions and read trough the rules and guidelines so you can avoid similar misunderstandings in the future.......better luck next time ;) mia

congrats to the winners... but honestly i would like to say some words this should be an architectural rendering comp. adding stuff, model some things or delete little disturbing things is ok. but changing the whole look of the building or using materials nobody would use or build isn´t ok. i work as an architect for viz... and some works wouldn´t work out in reality. sorry for the hard and really good work some of you did here. e.g. 2nd place this is a very good work. he but the architecture with the idea of the architect in a very very good point of view and creat a mood which every customer would use for selling. i like this forum a lot ...but try to stay real as your own work and don´t mix greets chris

Congrats to all who participated. I must have missed something on the rules and guide lines you can add objects, lights etc... just make it look better then good. I was not aware that you can modify the building nor add distruction, or sci-fi-ing it. I understood it as a realistic architecture point of view get the building and make it look good. I think some of us missed it as well. I would say annkos 1980 and Ignis and others. Congrats to all.

congrats to Mia for the first! and so to others two winners

congratulation to the winners!!!, good job!.